SOLVED C2550D4I ECC doesyn't work.

[V4M]

Welcome,


I'm learning how to use FreeNAS, and I'm quite impressed with flexibility, and features of these NAS distro.

I'm using on few machines, mostly on Dell servers, under Active Directory.


But that is not my problem.

Recently I had bought two ASRock C2550D4I motherboards, for my home usage.

One for NAS, second to ESXi playground.

And I have hard times to get ECC memory for that board.

I need it only for FreeNAS machine.


I have tried:

Crucial CT102472BD160B (.18FP 18KSF1G72A2-1G6P1)

Dell SNPYWJTRC/4G (Samsung M391B5173QH0-YKO)

Kingston KTD-PE313E/2G


All of them works in Dell T110 (for example), and dmidecode reports 72 bits.

On Asrock 64 bits, always, no mater what I do, BIOS were upgrades, ass second thing on that board (forgot name).



Most US shops will not send to Poland, local dealers have no memory modules from ASRock part list. Best shot was Crucial and it is not working.

When I send QVL Memory list to any dealer, they reply that those models are outdated, and they will not have them in stock.


Do anyone have any informations, about ECC capable memory for that shitty little board, whih is currently in production.


I had searched internet from top to bottom, all threads about that board and ECC.

Amazon, newegg, these forum, and I don'y have any idea what to do next.


EDIT: Bios and 64bit Memtest (UEFI) reports ECC enabled.

 

[BigDave]

http://eu.crucial.com/eur/en/c2550d4i/CT5008102
Is this link the same kit as you posted above?

 

[V4M]

It is dual channel kit, I have tested single 8GB module.


I had send info about that DC kit to may dealer, but they can't get it.

They have single CT102472BD160B mentioned above, last one in my country ^^

 

[BigDave]

I'm guessing from your response that Crucial's European website does not ship to Poland
and my link was no help?

 

[V4M]

I had not check do they ship to Poland, and its appear they do.

It's just my habits, I always drop logistics on my dealers head.


If that DC CT5008102 kit is 100% working with C2550D4I then I will order it.


Last time when I wrote to crucial with questions about RAM for C2550D4I no one has reply.

And I don't want to end with useless memory.


Thank you, for help.

 

[BigDave]

I have done business with the Crucial site here in USA and have had no issues.

If that DC CT5008102 kit is 100% working with C2550D4I then I will order it.

I'm not sure about the European website, but here in the US, the compatibilty of their RAM is a money back guarantee. :)

 

[V4M]

OK, great to hear that.

I'l try, and will place info here, how it works.

 

[nojohnny101]

i have the ASRock board you are referring to and am successfully using this:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008LMNXS0/?tag=ozlp-20

 

[BigDave]

i have the ASRock board you are referring to and am successfully using this:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008LMNXS0/?tag=ozlp-20

@nojohnny101 Do they ship to Poland!

 

[nojohnny101]

A quick search seems like they do. But just go ahead and try to check out and see if it accepts an address in Poland.

If not, then pull the part number and try to find it in online stores that you know ship to Poland.

 

[V4M]

Big thanks for info about KVR16E11/8, they are available in Poland, so I had just ordered one for test's.

If it will work i will order next.


Just another question.

Now I got one ZFS pool in RaidZ 3*1TB WD Red.

I plan to add:

one 6TB (Red) Mirror


And use my old drives for junk storage's:

one mirror from 2TB driver

one mirror from 500GB dives


Do 16GB will be enough? Or do I need to have 32GB RAM (I know 1TB = 1GB RAM rule, just asking)?

 

[nojohnny101]

make sure you are naming your raidz types correctly on here so we can help you because when you wrote:

Now I got one ZFS pool in RaidZ 3*1TB WD Red.

is that raidz1? raidz2? raidz3?

i have 6 x 3tb seagate NAS in a raidz2 and use 16gb ECC ram. As most will tell you on here, the more RAM the better, if you can afford it, put it in. FreeNAS lives and dies by RAM because of ZFS.

 

[V4M]

Welcome,


Today KVR16E11/8 has been delivered, I had run dmidecode on debian, and no luck.

Still 64 bits.


Then I had placed memory module in my NAS (freenas 9.10 updated)

dmidecode -t memory returns:


# dmidecode 3.0
Scanning /dev/mem for entry point.
SMBIOS 2.8 present.

Handle 0x001E, DMI type 16, 23 bytes
Physical Memory Array
Location: System Board Or Motherboard
Use: System Memory
Error Correction Type: Single-bit ECC
Maximum Capacity: 64 GB
Error Information Handle: Not Provided
Number Of Devices: 4

Handle 0x0020, DMI type 17, 34 bytes
Memory Device
Array Handle: 0x001E
Error Information Handle: Not Provided
Total Width: 64 bits
Data Width: 64 bits
Size: 8192 MB
Form Factor: DIMM
Set: None
Locator: DIMM0
Do I make something wrong, or it is just my luck?


Nojohnny101 can you run dmidecode in your system, to provide feedback about ECC status of those kingstons.


Maybe I need to upload some older bios?



And I like to thank all users replaying in these thread.

 

[V4M]

I had uploaded older BIOS, but that doesn't change anything.

On version 2.10 ECC don't work.

And I can't upload older BIOS than 2.10, Asrosk have lock in instant flash, it requires bios 1.81, and they have 1.40 on their site.

Also no older BIOS on CD. Motherboard has came with 2.10 bios installed.


That means Kingston will be sent back, and next try will be with crucial.


I had so many hopes that asrock will be my next favorite small server platform.

But it seams that they need some time to get to the level of sumermicro, or tyan.

 

[nojohnny101]

@V4M
Sorry I haven't had a chance to check my FreeNAS box. I will do that tonight and report back.


In the meantime, have you tried contacting ASRock support? I had a problem with some bad RAM (turned out to be the stick, not the board) and they were very helpful and knowledgeable.
I wouldn't give up on the Kingston just yet. We have the same board, I know it works. That means you ether have a bad stick of RAM (doubtful) or something with the BIOS/software or a bad broad.

Hold up on sending the Kingston back until I report back if you can.

 

[Robert Smith]

Try sticking non-ECC memory into your Dell T110; I have a strong suspicion it will still report 72 bits.

Those things are hard coded somewhere in BIOS, and have no relation to whether ECC is working or not. The actual ‘extra’ ECC bits are implemented in hardware and are not user accessible.

 

[Robert Smith]

Look what my i7 that does not have ECC memory reports:

Code:

Microsoft Windows [Version 10.0.10586]
(c) 2015 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\WINDOWS\system32>wmic MEMORYCHIP get DataWidth,TotalWidth
DataWidth  TotalWidth
64  72
64  72
64  72
8  8


C:\WINDOWS\system32>wmic cpu get Name
Name
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU  920  @ 2.67GHz


C:\WINDOWS\system32>

 

[Ericloewe]

Look what my i7 that does not have ECC memory reports:

Code:

Microsoft Windows [Version 10.0.10586]
(c) 2015 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\WINDOWS\system32>wmic MEMORYCHIP get DataWidth,TotalWidth
DataWidth  TotalWidth
64  72
64  72
64  72
8  8


C:\WINDOWS\system32>wmic cpu get Name
Name
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU  920  @ 2.67GHz


C:\WINDOWS\system32>

Does the RAM, though? That data is generally lifted from the memory's SPD data.

 

[Robert Smith]

Does the RAM, though? That data is generally lifted from the memory's SPD data.

Nope, the RAM is Kingston KHX24C11T3K4/16X (only three sticks of the four are installed), and does not physically have enough chips on board to support ECC in normal fashion consistent with DDR3 use.

 

[nojohnny101]

@V4M here is my relevant dmidecode output:

Code:

Scanning /dev/mem for entry point.
SMBIOS 2.8 present.

22 structures occupying 1367 bytes.

Table at 0xCF522000.

Handle 0x0000, DMI type 0, 24 bytes
BIOS Information
    Vendor: American Megatrends Inc.
    Version: P2.10
    Release Date: 08/06/2014
    Address: 0xF0000
    Runtime Size: 64 kB
    ROM Size: 8192 kB
    Characteristics:
        PCI is supported
        BIOS is upgradeable
        BIOS shadowing is allowed
        Boot from CD is supported
        Selectable boot is supported
        BIOS ROM is socketed
        EDD is supported
        5.25"/1.2 MB floppy services are supported (int 13h)
        3.5"/720 kB floppy services are supported (int 13h)
        3.5"/2.88 MB floppy services are supported (int 13h)
        Print screen service is supported (int 5h)
        8042 keyboard services are supported (int 9h)
        Serial services are supported (int 14h)
        Printer services are supported (int 17h)
        ACPI is supported
        USB legacy is supported
        BIOS boot specification is supported
        Targeted content distribution is supported
        UEFI is supported
    BIOS Revision: 5.6

AND

Code:

Handle 0x0027, DMI type 16, 23 bytes
Physical Memory Array
    Location: System Board Or Motherboard
    Use: System Memory
    Error Correction Type: Single-bit ECC
    Maximum Capacity: 64 GB
    Error Information Handle: Not Provided
    Number Of Devices: 4

Handle 0x0028, DMI type 19, 31 bytes
Memory Array Mapped Address
    Starting Address: 0x00000000000
    Ending Address: 0x001FFFFFFFF
    Range Size: 8 GB
    Physical Array Handle: 0x0027
    Partition Width: 1

Handle 0x0029, DMI type 17, 34 bytes
Memory Device
    Array Handle: 0x0027
    Error Information Handle: Not Provided
    Total Width: 64 bits
    Data Width: 64 bits
    Size: 8192 MB
    Form Factor: DIMM
    Set: None
    Locator: DIMM0
    Bank Locator: BANK 0
    Type: DDR3
    Type Detail: Synchronous Unbuffered (Unregistered)
    Speed: 1600 MHz
    Manufacturer: Toshiba
    Serial Number: 23365323
    Asset Tag: FBANK 0 DIMM0 AssetTag
    Part Number: 9965525-138.A00LF
    Rank: 2
    Configured Clock Speed: 1600 MHz

Handle 0x002A, DMI type 20, 35 bytes
Memory Device Mapped Address
    Starting Address: 0x00000000000
    Ending Address: 0x001FFFFFFFF
    Range Size: 8 GB
    Physical Device Handle: 0x0029
    Memory Array Mapped Address Handle: 0x0028
    Partition Row Position: 1

Handle 0x002B, DMI type 17, 34 bytes
Memory Device
    Array Handle: 0x0027
    Error Information Handle: Not Provided
    Total Width: Unknown
    Data Width: Unknown
    Size: No Module Installed
    Form Factor: DIMM
    Set: None
    Locator: DIMM0
    Bank Locator: BANK 1
    Type: DDR3
    Type Detail: Synchronous Unbuffered (Unregistered)
    Speed: Unknown
    Manufacturer: NO DIMM
    Serial Number: NO DIMM
    Asset Tag: NO DIMM
    Part Number: NO DIMM
    Rank: 2
    Configured Clock Speed: 1600 MHz

Handle 0x002C, DMI type 17, 34 bytes
Memory Device
    Array Handle: 0x0027
    Error Information Handle: Not Provided
    Total Width: Unknown
    Data Width: Unknown
    Size: No Module Installed
    Form Factor: DIMM
    Set: None
    Locator: DIMM1
    Bank Locator: BANK 0
    Type: DDR3
    Type Detail: Synchronous Unbuffered (Unregistered)
    Speed: Unknown
    Manufacturer: NO DIMM
    Serial Number: NO DIMM
    Asset Tag: NO DIMM
    Part Number: NO DIMM
    Rank: 2
    Configured Clock Speed: 1600 MHz

Handle 0x002D, DMI type 17, 34 bytes
Memory Device
    Array Handle: 0x0027
    Error Information Handle: Not Provided
    Total Width: Unknown
    Data Width: Unknown
    Size: No Module Installed
    Form Factor: DIMM
    Set: None
    Locator: DIMM1
    Bank Locator: BANK 1
    Type: DDR3
    Type Detail: Synchronous Unbuffered (Unregistered)
    Speed: Unknown
    Manufacturer: NO DIMM
    Serial Number: NO DIMM
    Asset Tag: NO DIMM
    Part Number: NO DIMM
    Rank: 2
    Configured Clock Speed: 1600 MHz


Handle 0x002E, DMI type 127, 4 bytes

EDIT: looks like i am running BIOS 5.6.