Uptime

When do you update FreeNAS

  • as soon as stable release is in the wild

    Votes: 4 21.1%
  • after some period after stable release but each stable release is installed

    Votes: 7 36.8%
  • only if the stable release effects me (critical patch that is NEEDED for security or function)

    Votes: 1 5.3%
  • some random interval

    Votes: 6 31.6%
  • never

    Votes: 1 5.3%

  • Total voters
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Scharbag

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So, all these darn updates cause my uptime to suck.

Question is: how many of you update to the latest stable releases? I am even going to try a poll.

Cheers,
 

Bidule0hm

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Well, I was doing this "after some period after stable release but each stable release is installed" but after the crappy update after the 2015 summer (was it the 2015-09-01 update?) I've since stayed at the 2015-06-29 update. I may update to the last version in a more or less close future but for now I stay on this update that I know is very stable :)

So, I don't know what to answer because I can't chose more than one option on the poll :D

NB: 45 days current uptime because of a too long for the UPS power cut.
 

Robert Trevellyan

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Sounds like "some random interval", which is what I picked. I used to grab most stable releases within a week or two, but haven't done so for a while after getting bitten by a bad one.
 
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I didn't feel like reflashing my LSI card to P20, so I haven't update since the last 9.3 update. That has me at 195 days uptime right now.

Sidenote: Long up times sounds cool and lend themselves to a "reliable" system and maybe even braging rights. I personally don't get to caught up in that. It can also be a sign of that isn't being keep up to date. Just a thought.
 

Mirfster

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At "Some random interval" right now, just because I am relatively new to FreeNas have not worked out a nice process to QA each update. However, if there was a "Critical" update/patch or an update that addressed a particular issue then that would be expedited.
 

Scharbag

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Sidenote: Long up times sounds cool and lend themselves to a "reliable" system and maybe even braging rights. I personally don't get to caught up in that. It can also be a sign of that isn't being keep up to date. Just a thought.
I hear ya. I just get that pucker factor every time I re-boot my server as that is where most of my issues have arisen from. I had a bad SAS cable of all things that would cause me issues on re-boot a while back. I have also had a number of HDDs start to fail soon after a power cycle. As my vote indicates, I like to be fully up to date (with a bit of lag to see if others are having issues) but I just hate the re-boot...

Is there any chance that FreeNAS 10 will allow for updates without rebooting? I thought I read that somewhere but I may be just loosing my mind.

:)
 

BigDave

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My up time is only 6 days at this point, but I've been changing 10Gb NICs during the addition
of my new switch. When one (update) becomes available, I'm cautious enough to wait
a few days before applying them, but overall, it's not a big concern.
Right now, I'm still on 201512121950, but will apply the latest Stable, in the next day or two.
 

Bidule0hm

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Scharbag

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I don't think I'd trust a system that doesn't reboot after an update...
I should clarify: updates for stuff like Samba or NFS etc. that do not affect the underlying system. Not all updates should affect the root system right? Some will. Or am I an idiot??
 

joeschmuck

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I only update after I have seen that the update doesn't kill half the machines out there. Lets be real here, there is very little beta testing done that we see for these updates and we use to be a large part of that beta testing but not any longer. Yea, I fear for my data when I make an update these days. I will however run the new release on a VM to check it out but that isn't all inclusive of a real test, it just gives me that warm fuzzy feeling. I practice what I preach, I backup my valuable data periodically just in case something goes wrong, and I've seen a few postings about people loosing their pools after the most recent update. I'm not saying it's related specifically to the update but I'm a bit on edge about it. My system runs fine so I'm skipping the current update and depending on what comes up before FreeNAS 10, I may just skip everything and upgrade at that point in time.
 

Ericloewe

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I try to balance the need not to throw my phone at the wall when I wake up to "Update available!" emails with the need to wait a day or two to ensure people confirm everything's ok.

I hope to be able to move to "Immediately update the secondary server, wait a few days for the primary" once my second server's running.
 

jgreco

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Lets be real here, there is very little beta testing done that we see for these updates and we use to be a large part of that beta testing but not any longer.

I've been advising people, since the beginning, that FreeNAS is essentially the beta testing for TrueNAS.
 

m0nkey_

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What's with the hard on for high up-times? Most mine ever does is 10-15 days before I reboot it. It's not mission critical and I'm usually screwing around with something :)
 

jgreco

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I should clarify: updates for stuff like Samba or NFS etc. that do not affect the underlying system. Not all updates should affect the root system right? Some will. Or am I an idiot??

I suspect that it's helpful to keep your eye on the goal here. This is an appliance. Its job is to store and retrieve files and data. To the extent that a particular version does its job acceptably well, there's not a whole hell of a lot of reason to upgrade. You're not supposed to be running FreeNAS in a position where it would be visible to the Internet and therefore exploitable; the biggest single reason ever to update software is to obtain security fixes. That doesn't apply here, since the NAS is already in a secured position.
 

jgreco

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What's with the hard on for high up-times? Most mine ever does is 10-15 days before I reboot it. It's not mission critical and I'm usually screwing around with something :)

Storing pr0n and pirated TV shows is one thing, but some of us actually use FreeNAS for storing things like VM's. If your VM backing store goes poof, so do all the VM's residing on it.
 

joeschmuck

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I've been advising people, since the beginning, that FreeNAS is essentially the beta testing for TrueNAS.
But we use to actually beta test and it was okay if my system crapped all over itself, it was a risk I was well aware could happen, and sometimes did. But now that was taken out of our hands. Corporate America I guess.
What's with the hard on for high up-times? Most mine ever does is 10-15 days before I reboot it. It's not mission critical and I'm usually screwing around with something :)
My system typically gets rebooted whenever I start testing something out for someone or just to verify someones problem. If it were not for that I wouldn't reboot at all.
 

Jailer

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Meh, I could care less about up time mine is just a home filer. Besides my power goes out frequently enough that I'll never win any kind of up time contest anyway.

I just updated a couple days ago just to see if it was stable and worked ok. I was on 201508250051 before the update so yeah I'm a "some random interval" updater. Having been bitten by bad updates as well I tend to stick with something that is working for me. I also thank the devs for boot environment rollback for when they don't work. ;)
 
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