IDE Drives showing up as SCSI?

[JTT0]

Ok, so I have FreeNAS up and running, but cannot get a Conveyance or even a Long Self Test to run on my drives.

UI have 8 drives, all WD Red 3TB drives, which are IDE. I am using the U-NAS NSC-800 case (http://www.u-nas.com/product/nsc800.html), which appears to have a SAS??? backplane? This shows my drives, including my FreeNAS OS USB, as "daX", instead of "ATAX".

Is this ok? I am not using this as a SCSI environment and don't care too much for SCSI. I just need a FreeNAS box with a RaidZ3 array/volume of 7 disks and a single backup disk/volume in Strip. Why can I not do any self tests or conveyance?

Thanks for the help!

 

[pirateghost]

What do you mean your 3TB drives are IDE? That case only supports SATA/SAS, so....

You are aware what SAS stands for right? Not really sure why you say you arent using it as a SCSI environment, and dont care too much for SCSI? What does that even mean?

 

[JTT0]

Haha, I am sorry if I confused you. I am not very knowledgable to SCSI or SAS, really. By IDE, I meant SATA, sorry! Here is a link to the drive: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B008JJLW4M/?tag=ozlp-20

 

[JTT0]

My confusion is that I have SATA drives, but FreeNAS sees them as SCSI drives, maybe due to my Backplane in the case...? My concern is that this affects my ability to run Conveyance Tests (ATA only) and for a similar, or unrelated issue, cannot run Self Tests, which concerns me very much.

 

[JTT0]

Sorry for the triple post, but I need to add that I have 8 WD Red 3TB drives going through the backplane in the U-NAS NSC-800 case into an M1015 HBA (Flashed to IT). FreeNAS sees them as da0-da8, including my USB OS drive.

 

[pirateghost]

lol. your M1015 HBA is the SAS card.... SERIAL ATTACHED SCSI. so yeah, your disks are probably seen as SCSI. there is nothing wrong with that.

 

[JTT0]

lol. your M1015 HBA is the SAS card.... SERIAL ATTACHED SCSI. so yeah, your disks are probably seen as SCSI. there is nothing wrong with that.

Oh, good to know :P

Any idea why FreeNAS won't execute the Long Self Test on my drives then? I scheduled it for hour X on the past 3 days and none seem to have executed...

 

[JTT0]

Also, is there any particular reason why FreeNAS would wipe my descriptions on the disks on every reboot? 2 of my 8 hard drives will not keep the descriptions I wrote and 1won't keep it's automatically added serial. It seems to have it there about 50% of reboots.

 

[cyberjock]

That sounds like you have some kind of hardware issue to resolve... Considering the M1015 is used widely here I'd say you should look at your backplane...

 

[JTT0]

That sounds like you have some kind of hardware issue to resolve... Considering the M1015 is used widely here I'd say you should look at your backplane...

I may also not understand exactly what to expect. When I initiate a Self Test at hour X, and hour X passes, I expect some sort of spike on the CPU/HDD Reporting tool and then a Success/Fail message accompanied through email, etc. Am I looking at this all wrong?

 

[ser_rhaegar]

I may also not understand exactly what to expect. When I initiate a Self Test at hour X, and hour X passes, I expect some sort of spike on the CPU/HDD Reporting tool and then a Success/Fail message accompanied through email, etc. Am I looking at this all wrong?

FreeNAS isn't running the test, the hard drive is, so nothing will appear on the reports. Also if there is no error, you will not get an email. You can verify what's running on your drives via:

Code:

smartctl -a /dev/daX

Where X is the drive number.

 

[JTT0]

FreeNAS isn't running the test, the hard drive is, so nothing will appear on the reports. Also if there is no error, you will not get an email. You can verify what's running on your drives via:

Code:

smartctl -a /dev/daX

Where X is the drive number.

Awesome. Thank you for this. I will run that command on each drive and see if the tests ran.

On another note, I have 7 drives in a RaidZ3 and see them doing occasional processing via the Disk Reports on their own. I assume this is S.M.A.R.T. pulsing for errors? I do not see these pulses on my single drive Stripe volume.

 

[ser_rhaegar]

That is most likely the .system dataset which is hidden from the GUI. You can check out which zpool it is on via the Settings -> Advanced section I believe.

 

[JTT0]

FreeNAS isn't running the test, the hard drive is, so nothing will appear on the reports. Also if there is no error, you will not get an email. You can verify what's running on your drives via:

Code:

smartctl -a /dev/daX

Where X is the drive number.

I ran this on my drives and saw that two Conveyance Tests have been run on my da4 (Single Disk Stripe Backup) drive, so this is exactly what I needed to verify that the tests are being run. Thank You! I can now rest easy knowing my drives have been at least minimally tested.

For some reason, when I used UBCD (Ultimate Boot CD) to run GSmartControl, it could not recognize any of my drives behind the M1015, so I had to skip doing those tests. Any idea if there is a workaround for this?

That is most likely the .system dataset which is hidden from the GUI. You can check out which zpool it is on via the Settings -> Advanced section I believe.

You are right, ".system" dataset is on my RaidZ3 volume, which pulses 7 drives. Would it be better to "move" this to my single Strip volume with 1 drive? Or is the wear and tear on 7 vs 1 negligible?