Hardware Mobo X10SRL-F is ok for FreeNAS 9.3.1

[BenGonGon]

Hello,
I want to build this :
1 x Supermicro Case 825TQ-R740LPB
1 x Supermicro Mainboard X10SRL-F
1 x Intel Xeon E5-2620V3 SixCore
1 x Kingston Memory DDR4 64GB Kit 2133MHz ECC-Reg
8 x WD Harddisk RE4 WD4000FYYZ 4 TB, 3.5"

My question1 is :
1) this hardware are compatible with FreeNas 9.3.1?
2) FreeNas 9.3.1 is a very stable version or it is only for test?

Thank you for yours answers

 

[Jailer]

Why would you do a new build with 9.3.1? 9.10.1 is the latest stable version of FreeNAS.

For memory I would get something from Supermicro's list of tested memory. You haven't given any details of what memory you are looking at so we have no way of knowing if it will work or not.

Hard drives are a personal choice. Again you haven't given enough details about your intended usage scenario to know whether of not enterprise drives are needed.

 

[Ericloewe]

1 x Intel Xeon E5-2620V3 SixCore

That's a waste. Get a Xeon E5-1650 v3 or v4 instead.

 

[BenGonGon]

For starting, thank you for posting so quickly.

Jailer :
1) you think the 9.10.1 is the better one in term of of stability?
If I understand good, the 9.3.1 is always in testing mode?
I want to be the more up to date with freenas but my first problem is the stability.

2)the name of ram is Kingston KVR21R15D4K4/64.
check by kingston : https://www.kingston.com/fr/memory/search?DeviceType=&Mfr=SMI&Line=X10SRL-F&Model=90227
But on Supermicro website, it is not tested.
It is a real problem or not?

Ericloewe :
1) If I want compress and uncompress data in real time without bottleneck, it is always a waste?

 

[Spearfoot]

For starting, thank you for posting so quickly.

Jailer :
1) you think the 9.10.1 is the better one in term of of stability?
If I understand good, the 9.3.1 is always in testing mode?
I want to be the more up to date with freenas but my first problem is the stability.

Version 9.10.1 is the current STABLE release; 9.3.1 is two versions prior to it. It's confusing, I know... :)

2)the name of ram is Kingston KVR21R15D4K4/64.
check by kingston : https://www.kingston.com/fr/memory/search?DeviceType=&Mfr=SMI&Line=X10SRL-F&Model=90227
But on Supermicro website, it is not tested.
It is a real problem or not?

Kingston has a bad reputation with some forum users because of some unscrupulous shenanigans they pulled a while back... With Supermicro, it's always better to use RAM from their tested memory list because you're assured that it will work with your motherboard. Note that crucial.com has several modules compatible with the X10SRL. Crucial doesn't show up on the tested memory list, but they are really just a marketing site for Micron memory, which is on the list. I use their memory in my X10SL7-based FreeNAS system (see my signature for details) and many other forum members use their RAM, too.

Good luck!

 

[Jailer]

Well as far as the Kingston memory goes there isn't much available as far as technical specs that I could find. I would strongly suggest you get some memory from the tested memory list for your motherboard.

9.3.1 is end of life. You want to install 9.10.1, it is the latest Release.

 

[SweetAndLow]

I have the same motherboard in my build, get a e5 1620 or 1650 with Samsung supported memory. Check out my signature for specifics. Ignore the fact that I'm using 9.3.1, you should install the latest stable version which is 9.10.1.

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[BenGonGon]

Thanks all for yours tips, I appreciate greatly.

Spearfoot and SweetAndLow:
Ok, kingston are not th good one. I have see in supermicro website this ram :
MTA36ASF4G72LZ-2G3A1 and MTA36ASF4G72LZ-2G3B1
1) I try to found the difference between this two kinds of ram and the price in a seller in Helvetic confederation.
2) samsung or micron, which is the best?

Jailer and SweetAndLow:
You have true, I will install the 9.10.1 version. If the 9.3.1 is end of life. I must follow your tips.

 

[danb35]

The only other input I'd give, beyond what's already been said, is to avoid the TQ backplanes if possible--cabling can turn into a real rats' nest with them.

 

[SweetAndLow]

The only other input I'd give, beyond what's already been said, is to avoid the TQ backplanes if possible--cabling can turn into a real rats' nest with them.

Agreed, I like the 846e16 model.

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[BenGonGon]

danb35 and SweetAndLow : I can think for a 846e16 case but for a 825TQ-R740LPB case, it is only for one family rat.

 

[danb35]

I guess an 825TQ wouldn't be too bad with only 8 bays. Even with an 826, though (in my previous FreeNAS box), the cabling was pretty gnarly. Anyway, the -TQ will work fine; it's more a convenience thing than anything else.

 

[BenGonGon]

With your help, I think my final config is :

1 x Supermicro Case 825TQ-R740LPB
1 x Supermicro Mainboard X10SRL-F
1 x Intel Xeon E5-1630 v4 QuadCore 3.70GHz
1 x Crucial - DDR4 - 64 GB : 2 x 32 GB - DIMM 288-PIN - 2400 MHz / PC4-19200 - CL17 - 1.2 V - registriert - ECC (CT2K32G4RFD424A)
8 x WD Harddisk RE4 WD4000FYYZ 4 TB, 3.5"

What do you think about?

 

[BenGonGon]

QPI is important for freenas?

 

[SweetAndLow]

QPI is important for freenas?

You don't want a system that uses a fsb. Way to old and slow. So yes I guess freenas would prefer qpi. No clue what it really is I just did a google search.

I'm maxing my system out at 128GB, you have set yours up to max out at 256GB which is fine but that is plenty of memory. I vote you do it because it's awesome but it's probably overkill unless you run plenty of vms with the new freenas 10.

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[MatthewSteinhoff]

1 x Supermicro Case 825TQ-R740LPB
8 x WD Harddisk RE4 WD4000FYYZ 4 TB, 3.5"

Buying case with just eight drive slots and immediately filling all eight slots hurts my heart. For just a smidgen more money, you can get a Supermicro case with 12 slots in the same 2U form factor. Unless you know you'll never need additional capacity, buy with future expansion in mind.

Cheers,
Matt

 

[BenGonGon]

MatthewSteinhoff :
I understand what you tell but...
I have see for growing one RAIDZ2, you need same amount of disk than the first one.
You cannot growing it disk by disk.
It is because that I start with maximum of disk.

 

[danb35]

I have see for growing one RAIDZ2, you need same amount of disk than the first one.

This is not correct. It is a recommended best practice, but it's perfectly valid to expand a pool containing one six-disk RAIDZ2 vdev by adding a four-disk (or an eight-disk) RAIDZ2 vdev.

 

[Mirfster]

You cannot growing it disk by disk.

True, but you can always add another vDev (Like RaidZ2) composed of new disks to your Pool.

 

[MatthewSteinhoff]

As others have noted, you can add a VDEV to an existing pool, @BenGonGon. That's not the only benefit of more slots.

You're building a beast of a machine with plenty of RAM but I don't see SSDs for SLOG or L2ARC. You may not need/want those initially. But what happens when you do? Wouldn't it be nice to have slots available to add them. (Instead of sitting them inside the case precariously as I have in a Supermicro case with only eight slots.)

What if you run out of space using 4TB drives and find that 8TB drives are super cheap? In a maxed-out eight-slot case, you could take an 4TB drive out, put in an 8TB drive, let it resliver then repeat until all eight drives are replaced. Or you could stick an 8TB drive in the empty slot and simply choose to replace the 4TB drive. It is still time consuming, for sure, but less worrisome than the hot swap and resliver upgrade method.

Or, maybe you run out of space when 12TB drives cost what you paid for 4TB drives. Add a striped mirror of 12TB drives in those four spare slots and you'll double the IOPS of your existing configuration while matching the same disk space. Migrate your data then replace the old 4TB drives efficiently.

In any case, whenever possible, I try not to start out without expansion availability.

Cheers,
Matt