Dead drive: Best option for replacement?

thatflashcat

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I had a drive die last night and want to get a replacement ordered ASAP. It's a Seagate ST4000NM0033 and the listing I purchased them from (new) no longer exists:
  • Any suggestions for a replacement drive?
  • Is swap size likely to be an issue during resilvering if I buy drives that aren't identical to the existing?
  • Should I get 7200 RPM to match the existing, or is it ok to get a slower one? Performance isn't a huge deal.
  • The ones I have now are SMR.

I'm not sure what my best option is and I don't want to run my pool in a degraded state for too long.
 

Chris Moore

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The ones I have now are SMR.
Seagate Constellation ES.3 ST4000NM0033 4TB 7200 RPM 128MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Enterprise Internal Hard Drive Bare Drive

I don't think that is a SMR (Shingled Magnetic Recording) drive. SMR drives perform very, VERY poorly with ZFS.

This is the latest and greatest 4TB drive from Seagate:

These are the model you have, but they are refurbished (used) so you don't know for sure what you are getting:

There is no problem replacing a drive with a larger drive. In fact if you replace them all, on at a time, your pool will expand to the larger capacity of the new drives. After they are all replaced.

If you have more questions, please ask, someone will be happy to help.
 

thatflashcat

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I ended up purchasing an Ironwolf Pro 4TB. Had I realized the Exos line was so similar in price, I'd have gone that route, but I think the Ironwolf Pro will do fine.

I don't think that is a SMR (Shingled Magnetic Recording) drive. SMR drives perform very, VERY poorly with ZFS.

That could be.

There is no problem replacing a drive with a larger drive. In fact if you replace them all, on at a time, your pool will expand to the larger capacity of the new drives. After they are all replaced.

For now I plan to stick with 4TB since I'm still below 10% of my pool capacity, so even accounting for 20% overhead I have a long way to go.

The real question is why the drive died in the first place considering I had another drive die about a year ago. Temperatures are good so I know it's not that.
 

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What about vibration. What kind of mounting are we talking here. Where I work, we put storage platforms out to sea on ships and the vibration causes premature drive failures. It could have also been a bad batch, I suppose, but getting two failed disks out of four total disks is a high failure rate. There is also the possibility that the delivery driver dropped the box. I have seen drives fail rapidly when they have been subject to the high force of a drop, even when they are still in factory packaging.
 

thatflashcat

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What about vibration. What kind of mounting are we talking here. Where I work, we put storage platforms out to sea on ships and the vibration causes premature drive failures. It could have also been a bad batch, I suppose, but getting two failed disks out of four total disks is a high failure rate. There is also the possibility that the delivery driver dropped the box. I have seen drives fail rapidly when they have been subject to the high force of a drop, even when they are still in factory packaging.

*six drives total but still.

These drives were shipped from California to the Midwest where I am, so I guess it's possible they were damaged on the way. However, the drive that failed was a replacement from the previous failure a year ago, which seems suspicious and could indicate some issue with the environment. I don't remember if I installed the last replacement in the same slot or not, but I have made note of where the failure occurred this time (topmost slot).

Here's one of the mounting trays:
 

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